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The closer July 31 gets, the more vulnerable the Angels’ starting rotation looks, making the need and desire for outside help seem that much more prominent.
With 12 days left until the non-waiver Trade Deadline, though, everyone seems to be in a holding pattern.
The Angels themselves are waiting to see if Dan Haren can regain form after dealing with lingering back stiffness, which could have a major say in how willing they are to trade for a premium starter. And the trade market in general could be slowed by two wrinkles in the new Collective Bargaining Agreement – the extra wild card and the diminishing Draft-pick compensation.
But general manager Jerry Dipoto doesn’t anticipate pitching being any more difficult to come by this year.
“I think there are different dynamics at play that are creating a little bit of a drag on the market, but I don’t think it’s moving at any quicker or slower pace, or there’s any more or less players that are available at the right price,” he said. “I just don’t know that we’ve determined, as an industry, what the appropriate value for those players might be.”
Some of that has to do with Cole Hamels and Zack Greinke – two starters the Angels have been linked to all month.
The Phillies, CBSSports.com reported on Tuesday, are preparing to offer Hamels a six-year extension worth $130 million. If he doesn’t accept, they’ll have little chance but to shop him. But until that’s finalized, those talks won’t intensify.
And then there’s Greinke, who’s slumping through July and did not pitch as scheduled this week, with the Brewers trying to get him back on track while still deciding whether they’re going to be buyers or sellers – or neither – at the Deadline.
Until the situations surrounding the two most coveted starting pitchers are decided, little movement can take place.
One thing’s for sure: The Angles are keeping their ears open.
With a 5.28 rotation ERA in July, and several uncertainties up and down their staff, they need to.
“Our starters just before the [All-Star] break started struggling with some stuff,” Angels manager Mike Scioscia said after his club’s 5-1 loss to the Tigers on Thursday, which saw Jerome Williams give up five runs in six innings. “[Jered Weaver] is obviously pitching well, C.J. [Wilson] has given us a couple good looks here and there, Ervin [Santana] did a couple nights ago. But outside of that, we’re just not getting the ball to a certain point in the game. That also affects how your bullpen is going to do.”
– Alden Gonzalez
Pretty much since he took the job over the offseason, Angels general manager Jerry Dipoto has viciously tried to fend off rumors that the club considers center fielder Peter Bourjos — currently without an everyday role — a trade chip.
That took place again on Wednesday, in the midst of a couple of reports — from Jon Heyman and Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com — saying that Bourjos is available for the right deal. Dipoto publicly denied that once again, saying: “At no point have we offered Peter Bourjos for anyone, starter or reliever.”
The Angels are indeed looking for pitching, for the bullpen and rotation, and they’ve been linked to a bevy of player, like Francisco Liriano, Jonathan Broxton and, of course, Zack Greinke and Cole Hamels. But you can probably throw out 50 other names that the Angels have considered, tabled, had talks about and sent advanced scouts to watch. The Angels have been looking to upgrade the bullpen — particularly with another left-hander — for a while now.
As for starting pitching? The health of Dan Haren could go a long way in deciding how aggressive they get in that pursuit — and, perhaps, whether Bourjos is in fact dealt.
Here’s what Dipoto said when asked about how important the next week, with Haren returning and Ervin Santana making a couple of tough starts, is to their starting-pitching pursuit …
“We just want to get [Haren] back 100 percent healthy to compete. And we feel, and I’ve been very forthright with that, that he’s the best addition we can make. We anticipate that that’s the case. And in Ervin’s case, it’s not as simple as just determining where he is in the next two starts. Ervin’s got a history of being a better second-half performer than first. It’s the way it looks from last year. I’m just looking at his track record, what he does. And we’re not two starts away from kicking Ervin Santana out the door. Ervin’s going to be in our rotation. The Ervin component is not going to have any effect on what we do at all.”
The Royals had a scout at Comerica Park on Tuesday, and word is Kansas City is interested in designated hitter Kendrys Morales — despite the presence of Eric Hosmer and Billy Butler.
“We have nothing significant or imminent at this time,” Dipoto said. “Like everybody is, we’re just doing our due diligence.”
– Alden Gonzalez
The Angels want to add a starter. It’s more likely that they don’t have the chips to acquire a premium one, but they’re doing their due diligence anyway.
This week could be a big one with regards to that pursuit.
This is the week when the erratic Ervin Santana will make two tough starts (against the Tigers on Monday and against the Rangers on Saturday), this is the week more will be known about the health of Dan Haren (he’ll make a rehab outing today, and if all goes well, he could start against Texas on Sunday), and this may be the week that dictates how aggressive Jerry Dipoto is in his pursuit of another rotation arm.
We’re now 15 days away from the July 31 non-waiver Trade Deadline. And the more time passes, the less likely it seems that the Angels can acquire a guy like Zack Greinke or Cole Hamels.
First, there’s the fact each of their teams would like to resign them. The Phillies, Paul Hagen writes, are entering a critical stage with Hamels. The Brewers, according to Adam McCalvy, pushed back the struggling Greinke to give him a blow (making him less appealing on the trade market and more likely to be retained, perhaps?).
Second, there’s the whole “assets” thing. The Angels don’t have a lot of that to give up. As one executive said, if they’re going up against the Rangers for a starter (T.R. Sullivan says Roy Oswalt’s effectiveness could determine how aggressive they get) it would be “like taking a butter knife to a gunfight.” The only heavy artillery the Angels carry is Peter Bourjos, the high-upside center fielder who’s without an everyday role but is a big part of their long-term plans. Dipoto has continued to stress that the Angels will not trade Bourjos, but things can certainly change. The only way I see them giving him up is if it’s for a starting pitcher they can resign — not one who’s going to walk away in two months and leave them with nothing.
And that brings me to the third reason — the new CBA. The extra Wild Card has put more teams in the race for the playoffs, making less of them sellers in July. But a bigger reason for a possibly slow market could be that the only players who bring back Draft pick compensation upon signing with another club are those who spent the previous full season with the same team. For example, if a team trades for Hamels and he signs elsewhere, that team gets no additional Draft picks in 2013. If he stays with the Phillies and he signs elsewhere, the Phils do get the compensation. One scout said the trade market so far is “extra quiet” and “not much is happening” yet. No surprise there.
Of course, there are other, more-attainable starters out there (Wandy Rodriguez and Ryan Dempster come to mind). Will the Angels go outside of themselves to add another front-line guy?
It may depend on how this week goes.
– Alden Gonzalez
Mike Scioscia made it clear during his availability at the Winter Meetings on Tuesday that adding starting pitching is the No. 1 priority.
Asked whether he’d prefer to add a bat (perhaps someone like Aramis Ramirez) or a starter (perhaps someone like C.J. Wilson), Scioscia chose a starter — despite the presence of Jered Weaver, Dan Haren and Ervin Santana.
“We need to get stronger pitching,” Scioscia said. “I think if you look at a lot of things ‑‑ you’re just talking about in the rotation, but we need depth in our bullpen, and we need depth in our rotation, and I think those are things that are priorities as Jerry [DiPoto] is moving through this process this winter. We had a lot of leads last year. Even though our offense wasn’t firing on all cylinders, we had countless games that maybe because of some depth in our bullpen that fell through the cracks that would have made a difference in our ability to contend particularly those last couple weeks in our division.”
More quotes are up on the blog.
Dan Haren is headed to Anaheim, which means only Roy Oswalt remains for the Phillies.
The Houston Astros have scouted J.A. Happ‘s latest starts, which indicates he would be packaged in a deal for Oswalt. There have been numerous reports the Phillies would have to trade Jayson Werth to clear salary and gain prospects for Oswalt. MLB.com has heard that is not the case. While the Phillies are exploring trade partners for Werth, they could acquire Oswalt and keep Werth.
If the Phillies cannot get Oswalt, they will try to bolster the bullpen and possibly add an infielder like Ty Wigginton or Miguel Tejada to add some punch to a lineup that is without Chase Utley for four more weeks.
- Todd Zolecki
Dan Haren, who was rumored to be headed to the Yankees earlier in the
week and had been a hot name throughout July, got his wish to stay on
the West Coast — and also landed in a pennant race. The Angels picked
him up in exchange for pitchers Joe Saunders, Rafael Rodriguez and
Patrick Corbin, along with a player to be named later. More: LAA | ARI
Aside from the big pitching prizes available before next week’s Trade Deadline, there remains a number of complimentary bats and relief pitchers available on the market. The trade winds are blowing strong especially for these type of players, as MLB.com has reported is the case with Jorge Cantu, Ty Wigginton and other similar pieces.
A rash of injuries in Detroit has left the Tigers in a possible situation where they are forced to entertain more trade offers. MLB.com’s Bill Ladson suggested Sunday on Twitter that Detroit is very interested in Nats slugger Adam Dunn as a possible replacement.
Here are a few more updates from around the league on Sunday:
– As an update to the Dan Haren situation, FoxSports.com’s Ken Rosenthal reported on Sunday that the Yanks remain the most likely landing spot for the D-backs hurler. The Tigers, he points out, as another possible suitor for Haren have bigger issues in the wake of the most recent set of injuries. As many New York beat reporters pointed out on Sunday, though, the Yankees are only willing to acquire Haren on their own terms and won’t give up too much to get him. The New York Post speculated that the Yanks could be holding off on Haren to ensure they can snag Cliff Lee as a free agent this offseason.
– Still many outlets feel Roy Oswalt is more likely to be moved before the deadline. FoxSports.com suggested on Sunday that the Cardinals and Dodgers were having a hard time matching prospects with the Astros for a potential deal. The report also speculates that the Astros asked for a Major League ready position player from the Dodgers such as James Loney or Matt Kemp.
– Nats pitcher Livan Hernandez told The Washington Post that he’d be more than interested in coming back to the club next season and ending his career there.
– As for relievers, Toronto’s Scott Downs has attracted a great amount of attention on the trade market of late, according to a Twitter report from FoxSports.com’s Jon Paul Morosi. The competition could be ‘fierce’ for the reliever, Morosi reports. ESPN.com’s Buster Olney followed that with another Tweet later in the day, suggesting that there was a lot of interest in the Blue Jays efforts to shop Downs, with rival teams anxious to see what they’ll recieve for him.
– Bailey Stephens
With now exactly a week remaining until next Saturday’s 4 p.m. ET Trade Deadline, it’s a safe bet that trade talks are beginning to heat up. The talk of the baseball world still is whether the D-backs will swap Dan Haren elsewhere and whether the Astros will trade veteran Roy Oswalt.
Both pitchers continued to be the subject of much speculation on Saturday. After it appeared that the Yankees had emerged as front-runners for the services of Haren on Friday night, ESPN.com reported on Saturday that the Yankees are interested, but they hadn’t gotten any farther than exchanging names with Arizona. The report suggested the D-backs were asking for Joba Chamberlain along with pitching prospect Ivan Nova and two other prospects — an offer the Yanks balked at.
Many reports key in on the Haren’s $33 million salary for this season, namely who will pay the remainder, as a possible deciding factor in any trade. A Twitter report from ESPN’s Buster Olney suggested there had been no talks between the two clubs on Saturday.
The Cards and Phillies have made their desire to land Oswalt well known, but it remains to be seen if either club is willing to give up the prospects and big-league ready talent necessary to land Oswalt. While the Yanks are in play for Haren, they are reportedly not in the mix for Oswalt, according to FoxSports.com’s Ken Rosenthal.
Here’s a look at other happenings around the Majors on Saturday:
-Gary Matthews Jr. officially opted out of his contract with the Reds after a strong showing with Triple-A Louisville hitting .313. Matthews is reportedly looking for a big league job.
- Ben Sheets, who had been the subject of trade fodder earlier this season, landed on the 15-day disabled list on Saturday with right elbow pain. It’s the same elbow that caused him to miss the 2009 surgery after undergoing surgery. His timetable is unknown, but this could eliminate most trade discussions.
- Brewers outfielder Corey Hart, who injured his thumb in last night’s contest against the Nationals, had his MRI results come back negative on Saturday, according to a tweet from Rosenthal. There have reportedly been many teams interested in acquiring Hart as the Trade Deadline approaches so it’s not clear how this may affect his trade value.
– Bailey Stephens
Many contending clubs are looking for reliable starting pitching (who isn’t really?), and so the attainable Roy Oswalt and Dan Haren are hot topics of discussion with the July 31 non-waiver Trade Deadline now just eight days away.